Oil By Pass System

[DWalker]

I just got a 2017 Ram 1500 Laramie Ecodiesel and want to pursue installing an oil Bypass filter system on it. I am looking at the Amsoil BMK21 system. I have several questions if anyone can help?
1. Anyone installed this Oil Bypass Filter System on their truck and did you have any problems with the install?
2. I prefer not to install a T at the Oil Sensor Connection point so is there another place I can tap on to obtain oil pressure to route to the filter?
3. For the return line to the engine many applications call for routing it back to/thru the oil filler cap by modifying it with a swivel connection. Since my oil cap is not flat I am not sure how one can modify it to receive this swivel connection in order to receive the oil return line. Is there another place on the engine the oil can be returned too? Or are there other oil filler caps out there that would work?

I would appreciate any help.......thanks.

 

[TC Diesel]

You are asking for Trouble...Plus the instant some dealers or Rep see it and the engine pukes it will suck up your wallet in excess of $10KUS

 

[BoostN]

You are asking for Trouble...

Can you expand on this statement, how can an oil bypass hurt his engine?

 

[TC Diesel]

The 3.0 has sensors to measure Crankcase pressures, and only a switch to read PSI. In addition the cost $ vs service intervals is mush better spent.

 

[Brokedownbutgood]

10K plus you really need to check your facts an entire replacement engine retails yes retails for 7K. If you shop around the engine replacement can be done for $7500 with labor.

Now back on topic bypasss oil filtration is excellent for extending oil change intervals and for extending engine life. The majority of bearing wear occurs from particals between 2-20 microns. The only way to catch them is with bypass filtration so it may prevent bottom end failure. So a for a couple hundred dollars you might prevent catastrophic engine failure.

 

[TC Diesel]

Hmm.NO Bypass system will stop Puking, if the rotating mass is creating wear its way to late by the time it reaches the auxiliary system, it will only prolong the eventual outcome, it will extend engine life on properly spec and set tolerances BC such small amounts are created and captured. Please tells us how the Auxiliary system is going to heal or stop the creation of the wear material designed to capture. How does this system warn the Driver/owner its plugged and the Bypass internal is engage the last 5K miles until it pukes itself to death on that family (Possibly) vacation?

 

[Brokedownbutgood]

Wear metals are always being made in every engine. Without bypass filtration the small 2-20 mircons wear metals get pumped throughout the system until you change the oil. They then cause excessive wear with is why lots of industrial engines use bypass or dual pass filtration setups. The setups do not have a warning on the filter but usually have a mileage recommendation on changing the filter. A little common sense and some mechanical knowledge must be applied. Worse case the filter plugs and becomes a blockage no harm caused from that. Its not going to cause low oil pressure.

 

[TC Diesel]

No kicking HuH. But you stated longevity, until I call you out on the FACTS. Share with us the common sense that Your BYPASS system will over come poor QC, I conceded it may prolong it ,BUT NOT stop it. In common sense How is any Bypass system going to overcome the eventual outcome of POOR QC and spec's? You cannot covert PPM (Concentration ) to Micron measure of length ..Just a guide OAs are PPM =1mic .So OAs will pickup wear material that travel thru the best filter you can Buy.

No bypass system will indicate teardown and repair, OAs will, Thus you will be More likely to save yourself the drama of catastrophic failure, By whatever means you use to avoid it ,Trade it off etc,, Bypass systems are for long term ownership to extend ....engine life....

 

[Brokedownbutgood]

Oil analysis is an excellent tool which I recommend every use but it is not going to prevent failure just possibly help identify it. It well also not stop soot from traveling through your oil system which is extremely abrasive, bypass filtration well filter it out. Until one can prove every engine is failing due to poor quality control which you cant there is no proof that bypass filtration well not extended engine life.

 

[TC Diesel]

I agree........ to this point, if the rotating mass is NOT spec within X range, only OAs will tell ya you wat cha got.

 

[DWalker]

I agree........ to this point, if the rotating mass is NOT spec within X range, only OAs will tell ya you wat cha got.

You seem to know much about diesels and the 3.0. Can you provide any assistance on:
1. whether there is another oil pressure port other than then installing a t connection at the oil pressure sensing unit.
2. Is there another place on the engine to return the oil other than modifying oil cap?
3. Supposedly this system by Amsoil only routes about 10% of oil at any one time. Do you think that would still affect crankcase pressure?

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[TC Diesel]

I had to make My own fittings, You also need to have transition for 1.5-1.25 thread to NPT.

 

[DWalker]

I had to make My own fittings, You also need to have transition for 1.5-1.25 thread to NPT.

TC Diesel thanks for the pics. I assume this was not for an oil bypass system but for you oil auxiliary pressure gauge? The tap connector would be pretty much the same. I was hoping to tape onto the oil pressure somewhere else on the engine. I realize to keep my warranty everytime I take it to the dealership I would need to remove this system so I was hoping to make it as easy as possible.

 

[TC Diesel]

Dwalker, I still support money spend on OAs is better spent. If the engine is within tolerance's it won't produce the -4-8 Mic's the OEM filter allows threw.

 

[DWalker]

Dwalker, I still support money spend on OAs is better spent. If the engine is within tolerance's it won't produce the -4-8 Mic's the OEM filter allows threw.

I am new to Diesel Trucks. In fact, this is my first truck. I am not familiar with your usage of the term "OA". Can you explain?

 

[TC Diesel]

Oil Analysis. Here my last 2 years.

 

[Paul]

I have had Cummins 6.7 and they needed the bypass oil filters, with a DGE tune you can go 7k miles and oil is still doesn’t look like charcoal.


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[John]

Here's a OA prior to a bottom end failure.

 

[TC Diesel]

1 OA is inclusive, Calcium 1737 that's the highest I've ever seen(Or remember) MAG 12 ,Moly 11 If that was My Lube I would be draining it before I typed how PO I was... In long term ownership No bypass system was going to extend any Diesel running that lube over long periods.. And With CAL that high any coolant leak into the crank case is going to be abrasive , High CAL and coolant = immediate wear with window Block or Knock. And Here's the real kicker when that coolant reaches your additional OIL filter it will destroy it in short order just like the OE filter. And again NO bypass is going to indicate oil contamination EVER.

 

[DWalker]

I have had Cummins 6.7 and they needed the bypass oil filters, with a DGE tune you can go 7k miles and oil is still doesn’t look like charcoal.


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Can you provide details on what oil bypass system you have used?

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