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2018 Ram 1500 eco diesel -blown engine

RikkiB

New Member
Jul 6, 2024
9
3
Truck Year
2018
Hello, I’m new here. I have a question about my sons 1500.
He bought it from a dealership at 119,000 Km. He had it for almost 13,000 Km and the engine blew.
I contacted the dealership after he paid for a new engine, to demand the RO from prior to purchase. Upon receiving the order we found out the engine had been leaking oil badly from the oil cooler, they changed the oil and later changed the oil cooler. They didn’t do a flush or an oil analysis. It was driven for 75 days and 13,000 Km then the engine had catastrophic failure. This repair also wasn’t disclosed upon sale and wasn’t found out until I asked for the RO. My curiosity is, with this engine cooler being changed and no flush being done, or an oil analysis , is there any way this could have contributed to the engine failure. I’d like to pursue the dealership for cost of the new engine (I’m in Canada BTW), I’ve spoken to one dodge dealership and they stated a flush is required and is quite the process. Could there be a connection here ?
Thank you!
Rikki
 

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John Jensen

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Mar 22, 2016
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You don't say what engine blew. If it was an Ecodiesel, they are known to blow, seemingly often. It's been a huge problem. A leaking oil cooler could cause an engine to blow if it failed and drained out the oil while the truck was being driven, otherwise I don't believe it could. And yes, an analysis is required to determine if the coolant was contaminated, and if it was, a flush is required.

Here is a quote from DieselQ.com
"When the oil cooler fails, engine coolant and engine oil mix together, contaminating the whole cooling system. Additionally, coolant can contaminate the oil which can lead to accelerated wear and tear of engine internals. On the 3.0 EcoDiesel it is more common for the oil to contaminate the cooling system which requires a full cooling system flush."
and
"The frequency of oil cooler failure resulted in a class action lawsuit and an extended warranty for the oil cooler for 2014-2016 trucks"

Ram issued Safety Recall VB1 / NHTSA 19V-757, Diesel EGR Cooler, May, 2020

You probably have a case worth pursueing.
 

RikkiB

New Member
Jul 6, 2024
9
3
Truck Year
2018
It was an eco diesel yes. When my son had it towed in and diagnosed at another dealership , they stated there was a lot of metal in the oil, heavy knocking etc but they didn’t look into it further, they pulled and changed the engine, it cost him $22,000+ CAD. He did have extended warranty for seals and gaskets and road side assistance, neither were honoured. A mess of unfortunate events I suppose. Thank you for your comment!
 

SeanPwnery

Member
Nov 30, 2022
82
26
Truck Year
2016
The "oil in the metal" seems to fall in line with rod and main bearing failure - something these engines are notorious for thanks to their narrow width bearings, and gasoline-tech emissions systems. There were tons of claims for replacement engines because of this, and a couple oil weight recommendation changes. Did the engine still turn over after it gave out or was it locked up solid when trying to start it? If you want to see the insides of one of these engines with the bearing failures, check out this teardown video. At the time Eric didn't know much about these engines or what caused this failure, but myself as well as many of his viewers dropped a ton of comments describing what generally does it. His second teardown on another Pasta-diesel engine had a slightly different post-mortem but was probably caused by the same issue.

 

RikkiB

New Member
Jul 6, 2024
9
3
Truck Year
2018
No it didn’t turn over. Thank your for this comment, im sending it along to him. I’d imagine if he had this issue once, it could be a possible future issue with the new engine?
What a disaster of an engine. Here I thought my Nissan rouge CVT transmission was a pain 😂

much appreciated.
 

SeanPwnery

Member
Nov 30, 2022
82
26
Truck Year
2016
No it didn’t turn over. Thank your for this comment, im sending it along to him. I’d imagine if he had this issue once, it could be a possible future issue with the new engine?
What a disaster of an engine. Here I thought my Nissan rouge CVT transmission was a pain 😂

much appreciated.

These engines get a really bad reputation - and the longer I own mine, the more I begin to understand the issue. Small displacement diesels are really well known and popular in Europe, but (no) thanks to the EPA here in the US, they didn't allow them or they didn't catch on much. I believe a lot of the issues with these engines are due to first-time diesel owners not really understanding the differences in what they need in terms of use, abuse, lubrication, and maintenance. I'm sure others can chime in with specifics, but in my own experience I can tell a lot of folks just treat these like they would any gas engine, and that's where the problem lies. Couple that with gas-engine emissions systems that these were never really meant to have forced upon them, and you compound the problem.

If your son is getting a brand spanking new engine, the best thing he can do, especially up in Canada, is a full emissions system delete with a proper 3rd-party tune. Couple that with an Insane Diesel secondary oil filtration system, and chances are he'll have something that'll last far longer than anything else gas powered ever offered. I have a friend in rural Wyoming with one of these, and he did the above mentioned changes with only 6 miles on his odometer (he literally had it trailered to the shop that did all the work on day 1), and as of today, his 2018 has a little north of 447k on the odometer. (one transmission rebuild about halfway or so into that).
 

RikkiB

New Member
Jul 6, 2024
9
3
Truck Year
2018
He did get a brand new engine, thank you for your response. I will gladly send it along. Much appreciated.
 

autoX

Member
Nov 6, 2022
90
18
Truck Year
2015
That was a good teardown. He did the eco-d too a while back.

On those repair orders up top, "Replace NOx sensor" is similar to my truck, with it's short trip SCR (exhaust) issues. Shortly after fixing NOX and DEF problems, my engine died.

But the good news is if the Eco-D is deleted, and in AB nobody gives a hoot (re EPA) then you have an unbeatable pickup truck for mileage, power. The new fuel pump on recall sounds really silky too. I added some airbags and Bilstein shocks.

And you do have new engine in there, pretty sweet. $ aren't to waste. I went with a used engine as new were impossible to find at the time. Still was $20K total tho.
 

RikkiB

New Member
Jul 6, 2024
9
3
Truck Year
2018
Interesting about the NOx sensor! Ya he was able to get a new engine. Took like 6 months. Insane it was about the same cost of your used. Thank you!
 
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