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Second engine and still the same scenario

Ramman18

New Member
Feb 26, 2023
16
2
Truck Year
2018
So I’ll start by saying my engine was replaced at 67,000 miles the fuel pump recall was done with whatever fuel pump they put in less than 400 miles after replaced catastrophic failure, causing major issues that three different dealerships can’t figure out and scientist will not take responsibility for calamity damage they call it have been able to drive the truck with check engine light remote start cruise control. Nothing works just had another major failure low oil, pressure, light and major electrical issues happen yesterday and had the vehicle towed again. I don’t know what’s going on but we have to try and figure out how to hold them responsible. I’m probably out $30,000 on this truck with rentals repairs loss of work hotels tows not to mention my entire def system was replaced twice and probably needs to happen again
 

Tremper126

Moderator
Staff member
Feb 15, 2019
1,057
363
Truck Year
2014
Sounds like a glitch in electronics or your dealers have zero idea what to look at
 

TC Diesel

Well-Known Member
Jul 14, 2016
2,545
727
Truck Year
2015
They are problematic in some/most cases; it will take someone that know the work arounds... Very rare to find someone in dealerships capable of reversing all of this, details will need to be shared $30K WOW...
 

Fat baz

New Member
Mar 28, 2024
1
0
Truck Year
2018
So I’ll start by saying my engine was replaced at 67,000 miles the fuel pump recall was done with whatever fuel pump they put in less than 400 miles after replaced catastrophic failure, causing major issues that three different dealerships can’t figure out and scientist will not take responsibility for calamity damage they call it have been able to drive the truck with check engine light remote start cruise control. Nothing works just had another major failure low oil, pressure, light and major electrical issues happen yesterday and had the vehicle towed again. I don’t know what’s going on but we have to try and figure out how to hold them responsible. I’m probably out $30,000 on this truck with rentals repairs loss of work hotels tows not to mention my entire def system was replaced twice and probably needs to happen again
Your not alone
My friend, I’ve been looking for two years for a used motor, after diligently have the services done on time, still paying for this piece of junk bought brand new, I stop and tell EVERYBODY I meet about how dodge are not standing by there product, I’ve looked at seven so called accident damaged vehicles only to find the engines are shot, then the vehicles damaged for insurance.
 

TC Diesel

Well-Known Member
Jul 14, 2016
2,545
727
Truck Year
2015
It was fiat That Brought the 3.0 VM Motori to Americas Soil, Ram was NOT in favor of the engine GM/VM designed the 3.0 VM for Euro Caddy's that never made it into production 2005-07. Plus, all ??? Americans that believe that Euro's technology is superior, ( Some products, engine, designed parts are better VM 3.0 was doomed form day one of production for Ram Truck/Jeeps) the VM 3.0 was to be placed into 3200LBS car, not 6200LBS truck and then rated it to pull 10K+ GVWR. Bed Plate cap's have proven to be problematic unlike Main caps, Once the Bed plate squirms around destruction shortly ensues. main bearing spec's need to be forgiving and spec correctly and kept that way or at some point its BOOM $$$$$
 

SeanPwnery

Active Member
Nov 30, 2022
149
65
Truck Year
2016
These engines have achilles heels - the biggest one is the oiling system - many which are neglected by people who never had to deal with diesel engine maintenance. The biggest problems I've encountered is TIPM failures (which has happened so often on this side of the pond that the cost to replace one has dropped nearly 80% due to demand), and electrical gremlins (generally solved by attacking the first code that comes up that solves all the downstream errors caused by the first code). If you're insane about your oil changes and using good quality filters, and staying on top of electrical foibles - they're not terrible. Mine just crossed 126k, same engine, sooted up intake, EGR disabled, and a new TIPM - and it's been ... okay so far. I'm running a now "extinct" SFT tune (I think the company no longer exists). I still need to do the CP4 fuel pump recall, and have been reluctant to do it since my CP4 is only a year old after getting grifted by the stealership.

I think the big thing here is, a LOT of dealerships don't know how to work on these engines. The other thing, the EPA forced emissions tech these engines were never designed to use which actually kill them. A good tune, some Rotella T6 15w40, and staying on top of electrical faults as soon as you get them seems to keep these things going. I've had mine for almost 4 years now, and after solving those previously mentioned faults - I've been ... "fortunate" so far.

Fun fact.. the Ford 3-liter "Powerstroke" is more or less the same engine we have with wider main bearings - with a good tune and properly anal maintenance and oil change intervals, they seem to work fine too.
 

ok3

Member
Apr 12, 2024
67
23
Truck Year
2014
Your not alone
My friend, I’ve been looking for two years for a used motor, after diligently have the services done on time, still paying for this piece of junk bought brand new, I stop and tell EVERYBODY I meet about how dodge are not standing by there product, I’ve looked at seven so called accident damaged vehicles only to find the engines are shot, then the vehicles damaged for insurance.
Did you find engine?
 

ok3

Member
Apr 12, 2024
67
23
Truck Year
2014
These engines have achilles heels - the biggest one is the oiling system - many which are neglected by people who never had to deal with diesel engine maintenance. The biggest problems I've encountered is TIPM failures (which has happened so often on this side of the pond that the cost to replace one has dropped nearly 80% due to demand), and electrical gremlins (generally solved by attacking the first code that comes up that solves all the downstream errors caused by the first code). If you're insane about your oil changes and using good quality filters, and staying on top of electrical foibles - they're not terrible. Mine just crossed 126k, same engine, sooted up intake, EGR disabled, and a new TIPM - and it's been ... okay so far. I'm running a now "extinct" SFT tune (I think the company no longer exists). I still need to do the CP4 fuel pump recall, and have been reluctant to do it since my CP4 is only a year old after getting grifted by the stealership.

I think the big thing here is, a LOT of dealerships don't know how to work on these engines. The other thing, the EPA forced emissions tech these engines were never designed to use which actually kill them. A good tune, some Rotella T6 15w40, and staying on top of electrical faults as soon as you get them seems to keep these things going. I've had mine for almost 4 years now, and after solving those previously mentioned faults - I've been ... "fortunate" so far.

Fun fact.. the Ford 3-liter "Powerstroke" is more or less the same engine we have with wider main bearings - with a good tune and properly anal maintenance and oil change intervals, they seem to work fine too.
I now have "cleanedup" a gen 3. 8K mile engine.... Banks intake, 3" EOC exhaust clean from turbo to 3"glasspack..Eoc stage 2/tranny tune CPX pump with revised pinned pistons and rerouted return flow. Running in a 4x4 2014 lonestar.. No codes, plenty of sane power..seems about 22-24 mpg.no burnouts/no stoplite fun..
Will see how long these 17mm wide? mains hold up??? IF they would beef up the bottom end I think they have a decent engine.. AS is it is a gamble...
 

SeanPwnery

Active Member
Nov 30, 2022
149
65
Truck Year
2016
I now have "cleanedup" a gen 3. 8K mile engine.... Banks intake, 3" EOC exhaust clean from turbo to 3"glasspack..Eoc stage 2/tranny tune CPX pump with revised pinned pistons and rerouted return flow. Running in a 4x4 2014 lonestar.. No codes, plenty of sane power..seems about 22-24 mpg.no burnouts/no stoplite fun..
Will see how long these 17mm wide? mains hold up??? IF they would beef up the bottom end I think they have a decent engine.. AS is it is a gamble...
Oddly enough... the 3-liter Powerstroke is basically our engine with wider rod and mains.

Honestly - I think your due-diligence will pay off. The bearing size was never the issue, the EPA meddling is what ruined the reputations of these. I know people in Europe who have run these for over a decade without the EGR and emissions garbage pulling 500k without a second thought.

I'm hoping I caught mine in time to save it at 106k. I still have a new intake in a box waiting to go on, and an exhaust delete kit on the way.
 

ok3

Member
Apr 12, 2024
67
23
Truck Year
2014
Oddly enough... the 3-liter Powerstroke is basically our engine with wider rod and mains.

Honestly - I think your due-diligence will pay off. The bearing size was never the issue, the EPA meddling is what ruined the reputations of these. I know people in Europe who have run these for over a decade without the EGR and emissions garbage pulling 500k without a second thought.

I'm hoping I caught mine in time to save it at 106k. I still have a new intake in a box waiting to go on, and an exhaust delete kit on the way.
When I pulled the pan on the 8K mile gen 3...it was clean...The egr tube was covered in wipe off soot...The intake swirl valves were wipe off soot.. The banks sure cleaned up that area...Exhaust note now with a 18" ss glasspack is a tad noisier than the stock monster muffler, still dual out the rear..Never having driven the stock gen2, as it had metal in the filter..I cannot compare.
There is no hesitation at any time, downshift instantly on interstate, plently of push ..Again I cannot compare with stock.
Never any codes oil staying pretty clear, I will chane at 5K intervals..Now have about 12K on install.
Driving my ss is no more fun than this tiny totally deleted dohc ...in fact it is my pick except for heavy city traffic.
And the SS (holden) is a real winner with a really balanced L3 415-436 hp depending on source in a brembo braked, maglev chassis..
Pulling all the krap off with even a generic stage 2 /tranny tune has been great..I wish I could get a GDE stage 2/tranny specific to this gen 3....Who knopws maybe in time???
 
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